Due to Underwhelming Demand Podcast with Dave, Rachel & Forman
Due To Underwhelming Demand
Due To Underwhelming Demand
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April 27, 2026

The Most Vanilla Person I've Ever Met! (Ep. 160)

The Most Vanilla Person I've Ever Met! (Ep. 160)
The Most Vanilla Person I've Ever Met! (Ep. 160)
Due To Underwhelming Demand
The Most Vanilla Person I've Ever Met! (Ep. 160)

(0:00) - Intro

(2:20) - A phone call from Dave's doctor

(10:37) - How do you eat your ice cream cake?

(18:27) - Rachel's category of being a 40+ woman

(28:31) - YOUR comments & voice memos!

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0:53 Yeah, enough. I know we wrote for a walk that day and everybody was like, what the fuck? I was like. Yeah, you tell. I wrote that joke on April 20th, Yeah, Anyways. It's hey, it's great for the cannabis stores. I thought I was actually high and I don't think that, you know, I don't think April 20 or 420 is even a thing anymore. Is it? It's legal. You can't. I mean, I sort of take. I'll tell you what quickly Uber Eats released stats of cannabis deliveries for 2025. Yes, the highest delivery days were a couple of days in January during a snowstorm, followed by the 2nd busiest cannabis delivery day of the year. 4/20.

1:37 Boxing Day. Boxing Day, of course. Oh, how? Did I not get that? Oh, that's yeah, that kind of makes sense. That's funny. OK. Well, sure, that's. Very funny. I guess so. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. All right. Well, this is we are Dave, Rachel the Foreman. Coming up on the podcast today, Rachel has discovered what her 40 plus woman category is. Yeah, yeah, we all fit into categories and I, I now know mine. OK, yeah, I I have an idea, but I. No, you don't. Well, I think I do. OK, Foreman wonders how you eat your ice cream cake. Yeah, in what order? I I don't thank you. So thanks for bringing that to the party. OK.

2:18 And I'm going to start with do you or don't you like getting a phone call from your doctor? Depends what the news is. Really. It really depends. Yeah, Yeah, really. Depends, because I received a phone call from my doctor earlier this week as we record this. And the reason that I would say it's 5050. If you get a call from you, like if you go to the doctor with a malady and like for instance, when I went, when I went, you know, when I had that really horrible cold and he said, well, it might be pneumonia. I'll we'll send you for an X-ray. And then you get a call from your doctor saying, yeah, you really have pneumonia and it's quite bad.

3:02 So if you're not getting any better, come see me. And that was a good call because I went in and I got better meds and I got bad. If you're waiting on test results, you want that call immediately. I guess so. I guess you do in in that case, but in this case it was a test result. So I just recently went for my annual physical. Do you guys go for physicals yet? No, I don't think our doctor really offers that. Really. She's very busy. Yeah, I don't know. I haven't since Nova Scotia. Yeah, I've been. A couple years, well. You are, you're in your 40s, so I would suggest that you know, you don't have to do it right now. I certainly didn't do it when I was your age. So I just book a year ahead. And then I go and we have a nice discussion and he checks me out and he asks me a few questions and some prods everywhere. Some prods and.

3:52 And take a deep breath and tap here and. Fun little story. Our doctor, our family doctor before we went to Nova Scotia. Yeah, yeah. Got a great story. She turns out now her daughter is on the same swim team as Harley. Oh, great. And so she's another parent on the same day, and we see her all the time. Yeah, someone who's poked and prodded all four of us, OK, and knows us better than anyone else, probably. Oh, oh, that's that's. Super fun to see her every day. Yeah, I would think I would. Think nothing against her, just, you know, a little that's always in the back of your mind. Slightly God you've. Seen me naked so. Whatever, slightly uncomfortable. OK, I got a phone call from my doctor after I went for my blood work and it turns out my cholesterol is reaching a oh oh too high stage. Oh no. 00.

4:44 Yeah, so now I saw this headline last week and I was going to bring it forward 'cause just to talk to you guys, not while we were doing the podcast, but just wow, how curious this headline was. Here it is headline of the day. Ultra processed Foods are turning human thighs into well marbled steaks. This was so that I I ran that. Animal Who's writing these headlines? I ran that and went my. Mouth is watering now. Is that what is that? Well, I clicked. I clicked on it and they've got the Mris from this woman from her thighs and they do look like well marbled steaks.

5:32 This is a real legitimate story of a woman who ate nothing but ultra processed foods. So her diet was so she's drinking pop soda. She's eating ultra processed cereals like crazy. It's all she eats, Cereal, processed foods, cookies, all of that stuff. This is what's happened to her. And I think to myself, hold on a second, I do have a weakness and this weakness has caught up to me. I love cereal.

6:12 Ever since. I was a kid. I've always liked cereal. Sure, my mother never let me have the cereal. The sugary cereals that. I want it same see on TV. Yeah. No, you can't. Have sugar crisp, but you can have some of your dad's all brand. You can't have tricks. But yeah, but mom tricks are for kids. Yeah, you can't have no. Not just kids, we. Didn't have that stuff either, unless we went on vacation and we were buying groceries like we would go to Florida and have. And then then we got, you know, we got those little mini boxes of cereals. Oh, I love like oh. Yeah, that was the best. I love them. That was so exciting.

6:53 And you could just open it and pour the milk inside. I love the best. I love it. Anyway to keep this moving? Yes, I love those. And there was a period in my life where I was in between wives and living on my own. Yeah. And I basically survived on eating, you know? Cereal. Oh yeah, and really, and I would just. I remember you telling me this. I would go to the grocery store. Here's how I would shop. And I would just see what's on sale. I would go to the cereal aisle and something's always on sale. Yeah, it's usually Post, or then it's General Mills, or then it's Kellogg's. So you can load up every week that's on sale. I'll buy a box of that and I'll buy a box of that. Anyway, Long story short, remarried eating and I'm eating healthy cereal.

7:37 The cereal that I was eating for many, many years and still am, is the most boring cereal you could possibly eat. Even more boring than plain Cheerios is whole wheat and bran. It's awful. It's. Shredded. Shredded wheat and bran and I would. Eat every morning shredded with brand. Shredded wheat and Bran and. It's good for. A lot of fiber. It's good. For you, well, you add in blueberries, or rather. I have something and then you just get it and then you know, whatever. So that's what I've been eating and that's what for the longest time. But every so often, as you say, Rachel, when you, when you would go on a trip, when a holiday would arrive, if I see a box of cereal that's on sale and it's, you know, one of those goofy, you know, like you can get Reese's peanut butter cereal.

8:23 It's just the best. Yeah. If I see one of those things. That is a snack like just dry. So I grab it and maybe I'll throw it. We throw it in the the cold room downstairs and then when I'm on vacation from work, right, Maybe I'll have that for a week. So that's fun. And then I go back to my regular and it. And So what I've been doing is adding, you know, count Chocula to my, I add a little count Chocula to my whole wheat of bread. Right, just for a. Flavor a little well and then the there's tie insurance with movies and TV shows. Did you know there was a stranger thing cereal really good. It's really there was cereal for wicked you got wow. Oh yeah, I'm on top of this stuff. Anyway, I need to go.

9:07 Into the stores more often. I'm too on top of this. I buy life cereal and that's about it. And and my my thighs are about to become well marbled steaks. So you're having a garage sale of just cereals pretty soon? I'm just gonna open my own Just Cereal store. Yeah, Which I would have shopped at if there was a store. Yes. Right. Yeah. Coming soon. Your cold room is just like a cereal aisle. That's. Right. Dave's cereals. How? Lovely it must be to live north of Fanchon. Have that much cereal in your. Home. Yeah, that you can't. You must be. Very rich. That you can't now eat.

9:48 Yeah, yeah, of course he's look. Look at his thighs. Wow. Poor Dave. This is due to underwhelming demand. The podcast. That's kind of like your team losing a playoff game in double overtime. Off putting to say the least. Am I right Forman? Disappointing. That's another that's we you could you could call this podcast disappointing.

10:33 That's true. Anyway, off pudding. Go ahead for him, man. How do you eat your ice cream cake? Well, now I can't. Yeah, I can't I. Guess. High fat. No, I don't. I'm not allowed no ice cream in my life. Dairy free. Yes, I can't eat it. Or a lactard, you might say. A lactard or. For me. It's high cholesterol and I cannot eat it. Well, they are delightful. I know, I've heard. Just had one for Emily's 9th birthday. Great. Yeah it was. Other than too many of our friends ate it so there really wasn't a lot of leftover for the family. Now This is why you don't invite friends to a birthday party with ice cream cake.

11:16 What do you you just? Buy a bigger cake so you have leftovers. Anyway, it was done into quite a debate between Ashley and I and Emily and Harley of how you eat your cake in what order, because there's three layers. There's the vanilla part, there's the chocolate part, and then there's that cookie fudge crunchy part down the middle in your classic Dairy Queen ice cream cake. Sounds great for him and thanks a lot. Yeah, keep thinking about that. Yeah, probably gluten free, I've heard. Probably gluten free, doesn't tell me. It's gluten free, but he's can't eat the fat now so yeah, doesn't anyway. Yeah, I don't think it's gluten free at all, but. The cookie wouldn't be gluten free.

11:57 No, but what order would you eat that when you could, back when you were young and spry and could shovel anything you wanted into your? Mouth, which I can't do anymore. I would. I've always sorted been the kind of person that when I'm eating something, if there's something on my plate that's not my favorite, that might be what I would devour first. To save. The best for last. Which every child has not figured out yet. Like we always tell them, you know, if you've got beans or peas or something on your plate, just eat it first and get it out of the way. But they always want to leave it to last, don't they? See, I just I discovered that and this is how. They don't know what delayed gratification is. Yeah. No, it's not even that I I didn't know what delayed gratification was when I was 7 or 8 years old. But what I did know is that my older sister and my younger sister hated the same things that I hated. And they, and you know what they hated even more? If I pretended that I liked what they hated and I ate it first, they hated it.

12:58 You're. Such a shit. Disturbing. That can tell you exactly why I turned out the way I Yeah, the way I turned out the way I turned out, Yeah. So that's what I would do. I likely would have gone. So what did you? Dial the chocolate and then the cookie part. OK, I actually am one of I like to eat things all together like how it's supposed to be. Like it's not, it's not the game. That's not a no, not eating it all. You're not getting a bit of each on every bite. No. Why? No, no, you're splitting it apart And tell me the order. If I have to split it apart, I'm eating vanilla first, then chocolate. No, then the cookie, because that's the best part. I would eat cookie. I would eat vanilla.

13:39 I would eat chocolate. No, the correct order is chocolate, then cookie, then vanilla. Why? Why is vanilla the best? It's not because it's the best, necessarily. Every look at then Ashley leaves the cookie till the end because that's the best part. If she wants to savor it, that that's a part she will actually even kind of chew because she's trying to. Save you know she doesn't like to do that chewing. Game Anti. Chewing. Ashley's anti chewing right? Yeah, but I would leave the vanilla to last because that cookie fudge chocolate chunky part is a lot. It's sticky, there's a lot of flavor going on there. It's very strong, something nice and light and easy to wash it down with. Ah, is the vanilla.

14:23 I see. Foreman, you're one of those people who says vanilla is my favorite ice cream flavor. It's not my favorite but I like it. I. Do like to have? That is, if vanilla is your favorite ice cream flavor, you are vanilla. But that's just You are the most vanilla person I've ever met. Take a look in the mirror. What, because I'm white? Very. Yes, you're very. Vanilla I yeah, look. Vanilla, yeah, but inside I am not. I know so, and that's why I think you rebel against vanilla because you are vanilla. Because my skin is so wet. You. Are vanilla so much? That's right. That's why you fight it.

15:04 I don't think so, yes. That's exactly it. OK, no one has a stronger opinion on vanilla than you do. Yes, it's true. This is not a psychological deep dive into into my I. Believe it is this. Is about Foreman's stupid cake. OK, we'll we'll go back to the cake. I don't really. I'm not a cookie person, not that I don't like them, but there's something that I can go. I don't need that. I'm not going to eat that. I do enjoy ice cream. I do like vanilla, despite what you say, Rachel. And every time there's a survey, a survey done, what's the most popular ice cream flavor? Vanilla finishes first. Stupid. It's so stupid. No, but I mean, I think vanilla's a great flavor and I think I still would eat the chocolate last, only because I think chocolate's my favorite flavor of ice cream.

15:50 So yeah, yeah. But I think you don't don't leave the cookie to last. No, because the other bonus is that it's it's chocolate and vanilla soft serve ice cream basically as the cake, Right? And how you don't get that at home? Nope. So I want to savor that. OK. No one seems to agree with me other than Dave apparently. Yeah, I don't. Agree. No one in this House agrees with me. No. So I think it's a mental game because the cookie part is the smallest part of the cake, right? It's the smallest layer. So mental you think, oh, that must be the most valuable. It's more scarce than the other parts scarce. The vanilla is plentiful. The chocolate is like half of what the vanilla is, the amount, And then the cookie is just like a thin layer of. So I think that's to me, I'm like, Oh, well, this must be the best part.

16:38 OK, so so you would go, but what? What which way did you go? Vanilla cookie, chocolate, or. Vanilla chocolate, then cookie. You like the cookie? What about your kids? The. Vanilla and then the chocolate and cookie together. OK, Foreman, you're not allowed to do that. I know, Foreman. What did your kids do? They leave the cookie to last. Cookies last. So they're like mom. Yeah, they're like. Me. Yeah, and then they complain about the icing, which again is something you like. Eat the icing first. Eat the the gel writing on the design. Eat that first too. Get rid of them. I don't like that, but Ashley loves that part. She thinks she actually. I don't like. It would say that the gel is almost as good as the cookie. No, I think it's weird tasting.

17:19 Yeah. To be honest, the Dairy Queen ice cream cakes are not my favorite. I know people love them. Of course, I also can't really. I can't eat them anymore anyway, so. OK. All right, that was fun. OK, you both suck because vanilla's your favorite and ice cream cakes are awful. This is due to underwhelming demand. It's the podcast that's perfect for you if you're not expecting much. True, That's the truth. That's the. Truth. If you're looking to go to all the trouble of putting on a podcast, turning it on, and finding one that you like just to be like, huh, here we are.

18:11 Yeah, well, that was a podcast. That's. Fine, that was fine. I. Guess if I yes, I got exactly what I expected. As advertised. As advertised. We did something right. Yes, of course. And I'm doing something right as well because I have now found in like absolutely my 40 year old plus woman category, there are 4 categories that women who are 40 and up fall. Into right. OK, I found 5. I've seen these. What's that 5? For me. Yeah, you found 5. Yes. OK, can I?

18:51 Hear Categories. Yes. Well, let's hear the five categories. There's Cougar, there's Cougar Auntie, there's Thundercat, Jaguar and Panther. Well, any of the which one I. Don't even know. Which one is you other than Cougar? I'm curious to know which one you are, Rachel. I have no idea. That's not even what I'm talking about. Antique cougar? You're an antique cougar. A cougar antique is a slang term for women in their early 40s transitioning into the cougar category. I'm 42 so maybe that's me then. I'm early 40s. And then you go into Thundercat, a term sometimes used to describe older women in these categories.

19:34 Thundercat 46 plus Thunder. Wow. 50 to 59 is Jaguar, 60 to 68 is Panther. OK, yes, really a great Panther. Well, how old is a cougar? Cougar is 40 to 49, confident, often successful single woman dating younger men. OK, well you're not single. So we're well, that's off the. Table confident, successful. Or perhaps when all the divorces run in, come through, then that's when you become a cougar auntie, and then you become a cougar, yes. Yes. All right. Well, what are your 4 categories then? OK, so you might have seen, well, maybe you haven't, but I'm 40 and my algorithm shows me these things, these memes. Good. We'll sort you into your categories, you know, after your 40.

20:16 And I don't know why it's after 40. Maybe it's because your kids are a bit older. You have some more time. I don't know. Are you? Gonna be equivalent of a Hufflepuff. What's that mean? Are. You being sorted into your assigned category. Yes, basically I don't know. We need the sorting hat. So you either you get into plants, you might get into plants or gardening, you might get into books, you're reading a lot. You get into like sourdough baking or maybe like general homesteading, or you're into like pickleball, strength training, walking with a weighted vest. That's your category, you know. And which one are you? Those are the four. You're not any. Of those those I am a plant lady, I'm a plant lady and I've become more and more a plant lady.

21:04 For a long time I wanted to be a plant lady. My mom had lots of plants when I was and she still does. And but every time I would buy something, I would kill it. Well, in the last few years I've realized I'm keeping these things alive. And not only am I keeping these things alive, I'm propagating them and creating more plants. How's that for a? Plant plants right behind you. Yeah, that's fake. That doesn't, yeah, that's not propagating when you plant a fake plant. This one's fake because there's no light in here, but I needed something, something in this room to be look kind of alive. OK, Yeah. But upstairs I have a whole bunch of plants, and I've bought more recently.

21:47 I'm in the process. I want to make a whole wall of plants. Oh my. I don't have a very great spot in my house with a lot of light. So this the one room is is kind of it. And anyway, just this week I bought a hanger for over top of the sink so I could hang plants from there. So that's been like a whole project all week to get all the things that I need for that. And then I went to the plant place and I bought a few more things and I and Jeremy's like really like you bought, you bought more. And then I went to another friend's house and she gave me some cuttings from her plants. So now I'm propagating those.

22:28 And then I decided to propagate another one at home. I've never heard the word propagate so much. So you could, yes. So you can cut off pieces of plants, you stick them in water and you have to know how to do it and they grow roots and then you plant them and it just, it becomes a new plant. Multiplying plants, yeah. You multiply plants. Yeah, you're my mom, huh? You're my mom, Yeah. You become plant person your mother. Probably because there's some areas of that house you can't even like you can't walk around the room because it's all plants, it's all propagating plants and plants and plants. They're so that's amazing. How many do you need of the same plant? Why keep spreading them? Oh, just 'cause you can into a new pot to take up a little more space of this room so you can't even go in it anymore. You.

23:15 Could give them to friends. You could sell them I guess if you wanted to, I don't know. Some people know I didn't know you were a plant lady. And by the way, I used to, I don't know if you recall this, Rachel, but when I first started doing mornings a full time a number of years ago, I worked at a different radio station. And so I had this really nice office with a big, I'd never had a really nice office before. I had a big desk, chairs and plants. There were plants in the office. They were already in there. I didn't really know anything about the plants. They were just there. And then one day after I got off to the radio in the morning and I was in doing other work in my office, using my office, you know, clearly for what it's intended, whatever it was that I did, this woman came in and knocked on the door of my office.

24:02 And I said hello. And she came in and she goes, hello, I'm here to look after your plants. And I said you are. Wow. And so eventually I never, I never knew her name, but I called her. I would just say, oh, hello plant lady. She would come in and I. Said I bother to learn her name. I never learned her name. And here's The funny thing. And she would just come in and water them once she. Would water them and I would talk about her on the air, about my plant. Lady here at the office. She was my plant. Lady tell you her name? I. Just called her that and when she would arrive I'd say oh so to see you plant lady. Hi, nice to see you. Anyway, turns out many years after that I used to run into the plant lady ohh and she would come up to me and say Remember Me and I'm like ohh Plant lady, yes, see.

24:51 Oh she loved being called plant lady. Know her name? I've forgotten it. I do know her name I think. It was learned it at some point. I think her name was Kathy. She was married to a guy. I used to see her at events and stuff like that. It's fun. She was lovely and she loved being a plant lady. But I don't think you're that plant lady. I would be now. She was delightful. Now I find myself she. Was. Low and I'm not. Thank you. Well, I don't know because I thought these categories were going to be like you're low maintenance, your high maintenance, no. You guys were all ready to put me in your own category I. Thought the. Cat she needs for these plants.

25:31 These are hobbies. Oh my gosh. I've bought all kinds of different soils because I had to make a chunky soil mix and of course, replant some of the some of the ones that I had done. And I bought this Moss that you have to like soak and it expands because it comes hardened, right? And it stinks, but it keeps the plants it's moist when. Like, like mother, like plant, Yeah. When you discovered that you were this plant lady. Yeah, I. Don't know if it was a discovery, it was like a natural progression I. See, and do you talk to people about all of this? Plant. Lady stuff. We hosted Easter here and my and so my cousin was here and she's my age and she was like, oh, I love all your plants. Like we I am so into plants now too and I want that kind. And I said, well, actually I'm propagating getting that one here, so you can just take that one home. So.

26:23 I said this is a small one and and so you and she's like really said yes, you could just take I've got three other ones. Did you tell? Her all about the lumpy soil and the the stinky. Moss. The stinky, I said. Well, that does are really, really boring stuff you've been telling us about. Yes, she's like I said, oh, I bought some perlite to mix in with the dirt and the soy. She's like, oh, you did get perlite. I'm like, Yep, I got some perlite. Do it at the dinner table, because everybody else would. Have been the counter. Sounding to sleep deep, I think by the time you were dead. Yeah, You know, this is due to underwhelming demand. This isn't the Plant podcast. Well, and I think we're in danger. Listen. To that I. Was becoming one of those. Yes. I never thought this would be me. I'd find myself going over.

27:06 I kind of check my little babies out and I see how they're doing and do they is anything need to be kind of pruned off or who needs water because not everybody needs to be watered at the same time. So. What were the other choices? Again, there was the gym rat. The gym, yeah, the way the best Walker, the reader and the sourdough, you know you're making sourdough and all kinds of other shit at home, which I've done. It's fine. I mean I've done all those other things, but plants is my like, that's my go to. I think that's my hard and fast for sure. Now I know. That I. Wanted to become the gym rat. The workout. No, it's plants. OK. Well, and this is due to this is due to underwhelming demand, not plant talk, OK. While Dave may be shortly having a serial garage sale, I predict someday in the semi near future Rachel might have a lot of plant stuff to get rid.

28:03 Of I think so too I. Don't think so, guys. It's going to keep growing. This is due to underwhelming demand the podcast with Dave Rachel informant that you can get wherever you get your podcast, Spotify or Google or on Apple where they have a disclaimer on our podcast, which I found entertaining. You know, into the AI description of everything when you search for something, right?

28:51 Yeah. Well, I posted it. Yeah. It's an active podcast hosted by Dave Rachel Informant, featuring candid conversations and humor available on Apple Podcasts. It is not not a reference to a decline in Apple Podcasts service, but rather the title of this specific show which regularly releases new episodes. I love it it. Is so funny I saw. Here's a reference to a decline in Apple service. Actually I I saw that yesterday forming an automatic. I did not see that. I reposted it because I thought it was hysterically funny. I'm very proud of that. We should all be very proud of that. Anyway, this five podcast which we are now very proud of the name and and the disclaimer from Apple was sponsorless.

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30:22 Yes, you can just go to our website, go to the dud shop, which is where our merch is, but you can also just purchase shout outs right on the website. Foreman's wearing our merch today. But you can in this in the dud shop in the store there you can purchase a shout out for 20 bucks. And it. Goes right through and you can type your message in there and we we receive it and then we'll say it on hopefully the very, very next episode if we haven't recorded it already. And, and yeah, you can just do it there. Underwhelming.ca/store is where it is. And you can also message us there. You can send us messages. Do we have anything? Are we hearing from anyone? I have one from Peter who is responding to last week when I brought up that inner ear thing people can like only 16% of people can like make their ears go like fuzzy, kind of staticky. Rachel's impossible question.

31:16 Yeah. Peter says hey, I'm here to respond to Rachel's inner ear thing. I I have been able to do it my entire life but can only make the rumbling with my eyes closed. Besides that I can make a clicking noise to pop my ears too. Everyone I ask has no idea what I mean when I tell them to click their ears to pop them during flights or change in elevation. Any other questions, ask away. I can do that. I mean, I generally I think I just swallow when I do that. Yeah, yawn or swallow or something it doesn't like. Though it just kind of like clears. For me but it doesn't. Click. I can gum work, chewing gum work block. Your nose and your mouth and. You can try and blow out and you can do a little blow feel.

31:56 Like that would really hurt me if I try. I've tried that and I'm like oh. It's kind of clicky. It pops them. It'll get rid of some earwax too. Just flies out. Just. Kidding. It'll splatter right onto the bare feet beside you. Make sure that. You're sitting beside your family when you do that, when you do that blow, OK? Not a do you do this, Peter, when you are trying to block people out? Like can you still hear or is it like a total block out of sound? Like I'm assuming you can still hear, it's just like a little bubbled. You may have already blocked that. His eyes are closed, his ears are rumbling. He. Puts on the podcast and clicks his ears. That's right. That's it. Goes to sleep. Yeah, just click. Your ears.

32:37 Yeah, Aaron sent us a message about my pet pressuring. Okay, yeah. Saying just get a cat foreman. No. When you go away, all someone needs to do is stop and to feed it and occasionally clean the litter. I'm sure the cat distribution system will find your house like it found my house. You know where there's going to be a cat that's going to have kittens under your deck or one will show up and someone will feed it and it's never going to leave. That was every cat we had growing up. They just showed up and now it's our cat. No, you don't want that. But it's like a barn cat and you don't really know where it's been. Yeah, right. Or what what it has and. That's what Aaron says. Growing up on the farm, we had at least 15 bar cats. Of course, yeah.

33:22 They all have died in various ways until my mom got a cat from a family friend and now that cat is 20 years old. OK, yeah, farm cats just kind of room wild. That's a that's a different, not really a pet. Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, But some, I have a friend who has, they have obviously barn cats too, but sometimes the kids get find one of the kittens and they bring it inside and then that becomes the inside cat. So yeah. No, don't get a cat. No. Well, you could, I mean. Cats were never on the table. The cats weren't. They're probably a lot easier to take care of. No dog yet. Nope. Not yet yet. When's that? Happened. Even he knows he's being worn down. Even he knows he's going to lose this battle. You know, it's sometimes we're at the pool and just like the kids are having the swim practice and then and then Karen comes in with her dog Toby and brings the dog into the pool. Very very, very cute dog.

34:18 Lovely, well behaved. You're allowed to bring dogs. Just like briefly in her arms, like not running around or anything and just holding up. Megan has a message for you, Rachel. Okay. Yeah, you know, Megan. Venus Salic. Megan. Yeah. Salad, Megan. Drawer full of Dicks. Megan drawer Meg Dicks. Okay. Yes Rachel, I had to go grain free for a bit, not just gluten free. The Hope store closer to Elmer has really good cookbook that you can't get online. If I still had mine I'd probably be photocopying lots of it, but they also have tons of alternative flowers and stuff you can use while cooking there. You go OK. I mean, I'll check that out. Thank you. She suggests a store. Avoid using corn as a thickener or anything else. Maybe potato starch is a good substitute. You can get it at Bulk Barn SO.

35:07 Is that like a one for one? Anyway, I'll have to look that. You know what? I've talked to some other friends who are gluten free and they're telling but the good gluten free flours and some of them are like one for one like 1 cup equals 1 cup of regular flour. Not all do. Some of them like stick to your teeth when after you've made stuff. So it's not that great and others are. But anyway, so yeah, any tips you have, I'm happy to receive them because Jeremy's gluten free and fat free basically so too, he's he's got the. Golden's not an issue for me, but the fat is. The fat is yeah, he can't eat like anything, so. Yeah, well, back to the food, back to the cake already, Melissa has said. My kids don't like any part of the cake but the vanilla so I cut that part for them out and then there's more chocolate and fudge part for me. OK, well, that's fine.

35:56 See. That's smart. I like that. Listen Foreman, you can have the vanilla, I will have all your cookie and chocolate part fine. But then she goes on to say Foreman, do not crack and get the dog. Keep telling. You. No. We started with fish and I'm stuck feeding and cleaning their tank. Yeah, get a turtle. Fish too originally and and then Jeremy was the one that kept it alive. Exactly, I remember. That getting your fish and we knew you wouldn't look after. It it was named Cat, Yeah. There's more to this, by the way. The kids, they wanted rabbits and now my husband is out in the barn cleaning pens and feeding them. Rabbits live forever.

36:39 Don't get a rabbit, there's more forever. I told the kids we're not getting a dog. It's a lot of work and we like to be gone a lot and that's not fair to the dog. I said they like to eat toys and shoes and you would have to make sure your rooms are spotless and that's just not happening no matter how many times I say clean your room. They watched one of our lambs. Oh boy, I didn't read this ahead of time. I want to know what happens to the poor. Lamb Lamb meta meta vehicle on the road. Let's say, OK, all right, all right. Or a lamb. You're gonna dig that deer. And now they understand that that that could happen to a dog too. Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

37:21 Don't get a dog, don't get a Bunny, don't get whatever you're. Absolutely getting a dog. He will have a dog within the next year. No, no question. Get them a goat. Goat. You're in. The goats. Keep that in your yard. I like goats. But they'll cut the grass for me, so that's right man, No that. Never works. That's right, the goats don't cut the grass for you. They don't even know how to start the lawnmower. That is, that's the worst old man joke you've. Ever told that's a that's a dad joke? Sorry, what a dad joke?

38:02 Yeah.